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Guys, I have a short summary of the post for those of you that don’t want to read the whole thing. I hope y’all are having a great Friday!


Most of the vendors I work with in the building/maintenance trades are solid—until one isn’t. For the last couple of years I’ve been locked in a tense relationship with a landscaping crew where the foremen and I are always one wrong word away from a full blown fist-fight. I tried to fix it by secretly paying the entire team extra cash under the table (enough to wipe out their taxes on the job). The laborers loved it. The foremen treated it like it still wasn’t a good enough gesture. So I finally fired them… and ended up paying more than double the original quote to get the same work done today. Business relationships are expensive—especially the divorces.

If you’ve ever had to cut ties with a vendor, I’d love to know what you would have done differently.


I have had to work professionally with alot of vendors throughout my working life. And for the most part, they’ve been great. I’ve worked with heating oil delivery people, construction workers/framers, electricians, etc. I’ve worked with almost the whole spectrum of services in the building industry for my line of work.

With very few exceptions, those relationships go through their full course without too many hiccups. I’ve had one or two that have gone sideways but for the most part, they’ve worked. However, with the particular relationship I’ll discuss, I’ve had to take steps so that the impending divorce wouldn’t be a gigantic mess.

Business relationships are expensive, both to maintain and especially to dissolve.

I’ve been working with a landscaping company for a while for various jobs and it’s an open secret that the foremen and I (there’s 5 but I’m talking about a certain 3) are less than one misunderstanding away from coming to full physical blows.

I have tried to see the situation from their side; maybe the price I pay doesn’t leave alot for all of them to have a decent payday. Maybe, the jobs I subcontract them for are not profitable enough?

So, I’ve come to give them an extra cash payment while on the job – all of them. I’m not giving them USD $5.00 and a wink of an eye. No, I’m giving them cash that essentially negates the taxes they would pay for that job.

The laborers are thankful for it, and I can sense their genuine appreciation.

But the foremen? They act like the cash is somehow beneath them.

The last job they did for me a few weeks ago, the foreman took my cash with a look of disdain on his face and that was pretty much the last straw. I wanted so badly to throw fists at that point but I also have to think about my own business’s interests. So I just made sure that all the laborers within viewing distance and earshot knew I wasn’t happy with the foreman’s attitude and left it at that.

I had to hire another crew for a job I am doing today because I’ve decided that it’s not in my best interest to trust that company with my business. If the foremen think they can visibly show their displeasure at me, I’m playing with fire retaining them year after year, job after job.

The bitter part is the cost: the original company had quoted $2,000. To get a new crew on site in the tight timeframe I needed, I’m now paying $4,200—more than double. I’m taking real risks with this new group. I’ve only used them on smaller jobs, so I’m not sure how they’ll handle this big one. I’m crossing my fingers. Where the first crew showed up with 11–12 people, this owner sent only 5. Sure, those 5 can earn a bigger tip, but I’m worried the scope of the job may be too much for such a small team.

This new team is on-site right now and it’s 10:30AM. I hope they don’t need the full day.

But to get back to the main point, for me to be willing to pay what is essentially a 100% markup on top of an existing quote just so that I don’t work with certain people is a testament to how extensive business costs can be – especially when tempers and pay take center stage.

And if you’re the guy that’s coordinating all of it, you cannot afford to have lieutenants whose attitudes force you to balance the trade-offs between the work environment and the final work product.

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14 responses to “Leadership & Conflict Resolution – Moderate Living Style”

  1. CJ Antichow Avatar
    CJ Antichow

    Sounds stressful Mike!

    1. Michael Williams Avatar

      yeah, it bothers me – but at least i can check on WP while working and read people’s stuff 😀

      1. CJ Antichow Avatar
        CJ Antichow

        Yes i love the distraction of WP too, probably too much lol

        1. Michael Williams Avatar

          😀 we are wordpress power users haha

  2. MJ🍸 Avatar

    Ugh I’ve been there when I was managing a beauty shop. It’s tough and I was kinda like a firefighter putting out fires at times because some people can never be wrong. When dealing with people in that headspace, you can’t come to a solution when they refuse to be teachable and they view as beneath them to even fathom collaborating on a solution.
    You did the right thing. Sounds like you gave them the benefit of the doubt on more than one occasion which is good of you. So long as you learned what you are willing to partner with, this isn’t a total loss even though monetarily it was.
    This too shall pass. Don’t look back, just keep going forward and watch your new crew do a beautiful job. It’s amazing watching those grab ahold of ‘that chance’ and working hard to get more.
    I’m very careful with my words and try to keep a center of mind knowing to not take anything personally. I do mean anything.
    When I worked at the shop a lady cussed me out for not having her hairspray in stock during Covid when it was hard to receive anything the way the logistics world was running. I knew it wasn’t about the hairspray. So I told her with all due respect, I know it’s not about this, but what’s really breaking your heart to the point of trying to hurt the only person who could show up to serve you today? She began crying and then I prayed with her. We became good acquaintances. Some people just need reminding that hey, if not having your hairspray of all things in the world is really your only problem… I think you are winning.
    Enjoy your weekend. Do something fun. Like light saber duel your mom next time you don’t see eye to eye. 😉

    1. Michael Williams Avatar

      😄 MJ thanks so much for your insight. u know, i try not to take things personally because i understand ppl are just trying to survive but in this case, there was no bridge long enough to convince them that professionalism will benefit us all in the long term. they wanted to make me a lynchpin for their issues, ill oblige the consequence.

      and youre right. thisll pass.

      im out looking at the jobsite right now, they SEEM to be making good time but a four man team can only do so much. next time, i need to tell these guys that if they want work, they gotta come in with at least 8

  3. vermavkv Avatar

    This is a sharp, honest, and very grounded reflection on the realities of running operations.

    What stands out most is your clarity—you don’t romanticize the situation. You show how cost isn’t just money, it’s stress, trust, and the environment you’re forced to work in. That decision to walk away, even at double the price, says a lot about valuing long-term stability over short-term savings.

    It reads like real-world leadership—messy, calculated, and human.

    1. Michael Williams Avatar

      thanks Vijay – i knew you would understand given your background. business situations can be very messy and sometimes, it just has to be handled in the way it has to be handled regardless of how cost inefficient it is.

  4. ibarynt Avatar

    Hopefully the new team is worth all that Mike. Money like love does make the world go round 😁.

    1. Michael Williams Avatar

      i hope so too Iba. the 4 man crew is making progress but they an 11 man crew would have been done by now. 😔

      1. ibarynt Avatar

        And that is the difference. However, there could also be better quality work with a small crew, just flipping the perspective a bit 😁 but time is another factor. We can’t win them all can we.

  5. Nancy Homlitas Avatar

    It’s fortunate you maintained your composure and didn’t lose control before you terminated the original crew. If the four-man replacement crew completes the job to your satisfaction without anyone getting their lights punched out, consider it a wise business decision. 🙂

    1. Michael Williams Avatar

      they are about 95% done. I just got back from inspecting their work. I am not exactly happy but the overall goal was achieved 😐

    2. Michael Williams Avatar

      and thank you – you’re right. having composure is just better in the long term!

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